This talk, cosponsored by the UC Berkeley Center for Law & Technology, exposes how a multibillion-dollar spyware industry—fueled by zero-day exploits and shielded by corporate obfuscation—has outmaneuvered every law, sanction, and enforcement measure thrown at it. The talk challenges the seductive simplicity of global moratoriums on the industry, showing how they offer little more than the illusion of safety. Instead, it lays out a bold blueprint for a multilateral regime that can reclaim control over current and future surveillance technologies before they irreversibly erode human rights and democratic governance.

Asaf Lubin, Associate Professor of Law, Indiana University Maurer School of Law, in conversation with BRSL’s Elaine Korzak.